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Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.15 14:09:00 - [1] Originally by: Pottsey Rivqua said " They are not better in your example. They can only fit one link, not three. They can also not outdps field command ships. And if they fit 3 links with warfare command processors, they gimp their fit just like field command ships." I was talking about them from a passive tank point of view and only one link is used in that situation. So there is no reason to fit the other 2 links and warfare command processors so you never gimp your fit. For a passive tanker or passive tank gang the T3 cruiser is better than the Vulture at everything. Last time I looked the T3 Cruiser and field command ship had the around about the same DPS output only the T3 cruiser gives a much bigger boost so again why use the field command ship when T3 is just as good or better? Why would anyone want to use a Field Command ship once prices hit 200mill for T3? Definition of "Tunnel Vision". ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:00:00 - [2] Originally by: False Face Incompatible Protocol Both of my computers can't you guys get your s**t straight? Perhaps you should wait until Tranquility has actually been updated and set to accept connections before you try to play. ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:09:00 - [3] Originally by: Vaustrien I am a Falcon pilot, and I can admit that CCP just basically did to the Falcon what they did to every other Recon Ship. Although, I haven't seen just how big the SDA bonuses to range are. I'm still mad that my Rapier's a dusty paperweight now. Well, dust that paperweight off since a Rapier is tremendously helpful in enabling a SB group to deliver full damage to a target with either torps or bombs. Also consider that the presence of a Pilgrim, Arazu, or Falcon raises the survivability factor of a SB group immensely. There may be life in the old girls yet. ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Alcari where the hell is that patch,where i can download it,i cant enter game without it.,, Scroll to the top of the page. ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar There is a school of thought that subscribes, as I do, to the idea that your customers own your product, not the other way around. After all, without your customers, you would not have a product. I just wanted to make a point here, lest anyone think they are powerless to bring about change in Eve. It is rarely easy, but it can be done (this patch has many good examples). While I agree with your second point, I will point out that your first point is only partially correct. Customers that use your software should indeed have input into how a software product is optimized. However, only to a degree. I for one do not want people with no knowledge of how the software works under the hood, nor any true perspective on how other folks may need/want the software to work, to make any design decisions on how said software operates. That is the job of the software developer... to sort the wheat from the chaf, to sort the good ideas from the bad, to determine what can be made workable and relatively bug free, and what features benefit the many without degrading the functionality of the software for others. Keep in mind that what may seem like a simple and brilliant idea to one person using your software, may in fact be difficult or impossible to implement in a bug free manner or worse make the software substandard for other groups in your customer base. That is why software developers get paid the big bucks , because it is their responsibility to look at the bigger picture. As in many things, in regards to software the customer is "NOT" always right. ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar Footnote: The customer is always right. They can be wrong, but they are always right. I would prefer a company tell me if I am wrong, or my understanding of what the product can be made to do is imperfect, or if a feature I would like would negatively impact other customers. I can understand that and appreciate their honesty. Alas, many would prefer to be lied to and then wonder why the change never happens. ===== Yeah, VC is back, and we have a bone to pick with you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:57:00 - [7] Quote: CCP sould kick that dead horse Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums. ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Neverforgotten well i think i will park my falcon and rook and dust of my manticore btw if your going to be late CCP least have the balls to tell us whats going on...we pay for the service after all!!! if its gone **** up just say so lol happy days! BTW, try reading the status update box on the login page. ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Cymru2000 Autopatch is up? Yes. ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:31:00 - [10] Originally by: badgersarse Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Originally by: Allaera WHAT IN DIVINTY'S EDGE IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!?!?! Nobody cares what TZ you live in!! Nobody cares what time you got right now!! Look at the forum timestamp for crying out loud! That is the same time EvE itself runs at. END OF STORY!! Just wait like everyone else and STFU with your whining. CCP is late, there iz nothing wrong with me. They are now late, even by the timestamp on your lazt pozt. I would like an update on what iz going on from CCP, should I give up for the day or hang on 20 minutez? I got WarDecz to get out. Well said Actually, no, not well said. He failed to realize that the login page clearly states that there would be a delay until 16:45... thereby making something of a ass of himself. ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.

Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:38:00 - [11] I have 45 seconds to go until the patch finishes downloading. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!! Thanks to this horrible amount of waiting my gaming time is being squandered and I demand a refun.... Oh wait, its done. NM ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Armon Ral I wonder who the 2 players online are ;) It's me and my 2nd account. Wish you were here... ===== Necro-Equine Assault is only sanctioned on the forums.

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